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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 03-09-2009, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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5th wheel or bumper pull?

I've got the go ahead to get a toy hauler!

I was looking at a couple new ones and a few used ones. I have a mental block issue with buying a used one, thinking about the other dude's DNA I might be sleeping in. So I would be fucking picky as hell when deciding to muy one used. (Not to mention the worries about it being bombed through the dunes and damage done to it.)

I think I'd rather have a 5th wheel for a better pull but I see some pluses with a bumper pull. (Still able to haul some bikes or quad in the bed). The other issue with a 5'r is this:
I already have a B&W horsetrailer ball in the truck. B&W makes an insert for that hitch to pull a 5th wheel. BUT I have a short bed and the insert isn't a slider. Now I've been pulling 8' wide horse trailers all my driving life and I've never had an issue. Why is a 5th wheel any different?
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post #2 of 31 (permalink) Old 03-09-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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Hey 5 long time no see! congrats on the go ahead!!
We had a short bed for our 1st truck pulling a 3612 raptor we had the slider hitch never had to use it ,Terry tried it once and hated it.
Tons of folks we know doing 5ers with short beds, We have had 2 tags & a 5er and love all the room in the 5er and Terry says it tows very differently he likes it quite a bit better if we got to buy again we would do another 5er for sure.
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I would go with the 5'er. I have one and love how it tows, the extra room in the front for a little privacy, and the length of the 5'er can be longer and not be like towing a 30' bumper pull plus the hitch length. If you have towed before you shouldn't have a problem with it. Just watch the sharp turns. Check out the new Fuzion haulers they are bas ass!! Good luck and post some pics when you get it.
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we pull our 38' ecplispe stellar 5th wheel toy hauler with a chevy diesal 4 door short bed. (inside ... 2 rhinoes and a ktm450)
we have upgraded our hitch though.. i love it.. my husband misses the bed
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Okay, so I really don't NEED the slider. Like I said my 8' wide horse trailers go in tighter spots than I'd usually take this hauler and if I'm cool with that, I should be alright without a slider?


Just to clarify - I want the 5th wheel. My only issue is the requirement for a slider since I can't get a slider in my B&W.
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I have have had both and this is my .02

Pull behinds are typically lighter than 5ers as the trucks towing capacity is less for a pull behind. You are correct, the bed of the truck is usable. More difficult to hitch and unhitch. Hitch is less expensive. Most pull behinds do not have slide out rooms as they add a lot of weight to the trailer. If your pull behind can weigh over 10,000lbs you need a Non commercial class A license.

5th wheels will weigh more. I believe they tow better. You can have passengers in the 5th wheel when traveling. If the 5th wheel can weigh over 15,000lbs you will need an Non commercial class A license. I get stuck less in the dunes with my 5th wheel.

I have a 12 foot deep garage in my 5er and put 2 YFZ 450s, 1 stock travel rhino and 1 trx 90 in it. Trailers without garage walls with handle more toys.

I believe that most horse trailers get narrower in the front toward the cab of the truck, were as 5ers do not. With a short bed truck you will need some type of sliding hitch for tight turns like gas stations. Automatic sliding hitches are expensive.

From Galt you have a few good choices for shopping, Pan Pacific in Lathrop and in Sacramento there are at least 4 great places to look also.

With the economy the way it is you can get a great price on a new trailer and you get a warranty unless you purchase a WW.

Good luck.
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can you use an offset adapter on the 5th wheel to your hitch could give you a couple more inches if you need it, i have a bumper 28' when i buy a new one it will be a 5er, everything i read everybody buys the slider hitches and does not use them, i will put one in just if i ever get in that in 1 in a 1000case situation.

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And I have 2 friends with damaged cabs from not having sliding hitches
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if you pay attetion every time you make tight turns or back up a grade you will be fine with regular hitch,. However a friend of mine who is a pretty smart guy not a dumbass. Was in a hurry one day and put a dent in his cab. the auto slider would have payed for itself that day. I know when I ever get a fiver, I have a short bed I will get a slider hitch. I beleive in being proactive rather than waiting till I screw something up.
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BP are ok (i have one) but 5ver's are almost always nicer. A lot of them have garage's which wouldn't work for me. But some of the deals out there on used 5th wheels are crazy. We have a 40 foot Full Throttle on Craigslist for 30k. It's like 2 years old.

Throw the bed out and put new covers on all the furniture. Look at used.IMO.
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