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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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ATV Television -Anti-UTV stand

I've had it, this guy has to be stopped.
In a simply astounding blog post, ATV Television host Doug Meyer has come out swinging in an attempt to force UTVs off of the Paiute ATV Trail system.
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In effect he says UTVs are ruining the trail and they must be banned before the trail system is destroyed.
He goes so far as to say that the damage UTVs are causing in Moab and Imperial Dunes and to the Paiute will result in them being shut down.
He defines UTVs as "incredibly high-speed vehicles that have in turn increased both personal injuries and ecological damage multifold".

His parting shot is a clear indication that he thinks UTV owners are simply a bunch of speed freaks ruining the scenery of the Paiute Trail.

"All this is said not because of my preference for ATVs over UTVs, but rather my preference for scenic trails for exploration over trails used for high-speed entertainment." -Doug Meyer

This isn't just a one time blog post, he has taken this argument to the US Forrest Service that manages the Paiute Trail.
He has been a vocal opponent of the UTV Jamboree held each year on the Paiute (, last year urging the city of Marysvale to ban the event.

I can tell you first hand UTVs are not creating a problem on this trail system, Doug just hates UTVs.

The amazing thing here is that this guy makes a living largely from UTVs. One look at all of his latest video you see its all about UTVs. I see him wheeling around in UTVs he has been given for FREE all the time.
I think its time Polaris, Yamaha, Kawasaki and the rest of the manufacturers stop giving this guy free product to use in his business.

We have enough problems with environmentalists trying to shut us down, we don't need the media that pretends to represent us doing it.
I think its time we let him know we don't appreciate the way he is dogging us.

Please send emails to the media contacts and tell them to stop supporting a guy who doesn't support this sport.
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 09:29 PM
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Hey Redman, cant get the blog to pop up. Might be just me.
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looks like the formatting of the link. Try this.

ATV Television's Blog: The Future of the Paiute Trail System
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It works thanks!

I thought he was a decent guy, apparently hes a douche bag!
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In effect he is calling for the Paiute to structure itself in a way that pretty much precludes UTV riders from wanting to ride here.

I think that is very divisive, and the last thing we need in this industry is for our own media representatives to be creating a divided and conquer scenario.

Basically Doug doesn't like UTVs, I'm fine with that. What I don't like is the way he is calling for the Paiute Trail to adopt a strategy that will essentially keep UTV riders from the Paiute. Regardless of how you might feel about ATVs vs UTVs the simple math is that UTVs are a growing segment and they represent a MUCH needed economic impact that Doug is simply willing to abandon to get what he wants.

Frankly I don't think this blog entry has anything to do with saving the trail and everything to do with Doug.

This is my response to his blog:

Doug, this is what you have said. UTVs are to the Paiute Trail as Extreme Rock Buggies and super fast sand rails are to Glammis. Ergo we need to do something to stop the extreme damage being caused to the Paiute by these UTVs. So your answer to that is to limit UTV access by making the trail width exclude them, then they wont come to the Paiute.

You specifically call for this saying the main Paiute loop should be 50". You know that these few 50" sections on the Paiute are the ones that make it unpleasant for UTV riders on the Paiute and you want to make it as unpleasant as possible so that the people you don't like will find somewhere else to ride.

I find your efforts to divide this industry for your own personal agenda sad. This is NOT about saving the trail, its about Doug.

You know full well that UTVs are not destroying the Paiute and that the Paiute is not under the kinds of pressures or environmental threats as Moab and Glammis simply because it is a well managed trail system and you also know that IF the Paiute opens a FEW 50" trails to wider vehicles that this does not pose any more risk to the environment and certainly does not create anywhere near the concerns that Moab and Glammis deal with.

The way you categorically designate UTVs as THE vehicle that will ultimately destroy the Paiute is patently misguided.
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Never have liked him anyway......

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